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What are the black and white boxes on survey plan?
These boxes indicate the presence of survey monuments - 2 or 4 foot long iron survey bars that surveyors drive into the ground to physically mark boundary points.
The solid black squares indicate an existing iron bar that the surveyor found and is confirming the presence and location of.
Why does it take so long to do a survey?
A basic residential survey typically takes 5-10 business days to complete. That includes up-front research, field work, plan drafting and final plan checking.
The work will take a month (or more) if it's in some way more complex than a standard residential lot, or, more likely, the surveyor has more than your job that his firm is working on at the same time, so the 7-10 days of work are completed over a longer period of time.
If your job is time-sensitive, as for a contract from your surveyor stating when they commit to completing the job.
How long does a survey take?
New survey plan completion depends on several factors:
- How large is the property;
- Is it in an urban, suburban or rural area;
- Can the surveyor get working on your survey right away?
- Is the lot backing onto a ravine or conservation land?
Typically, for a smaller (standard size) urban property it takes approximately 7-10 business days assuming the land surveyor starts the survey work immediately.
Survey consultation
The surveying industry in Ontario is governed and regulated by the Association of Ontario Land Surveyors (www.aols.org). Surveyors hold a quasi-judicial "role" meaning that while they are paid by clients to do work, their opinions regarding boundaries are impartial. Therefore providing that the surveyor you select is a member in good standing of the AOLS, you should be getting top quality results.
To be certain, do your due diligence and ask for references if you so choose.
Resolving a boundary dispute
Generally speaking there are two pathways to resolving a boundary dispute: either you resolve it yourself with your neighbour, or you seek legal help and resolve the dispute using the legal and court system.
Resolving it yourself can be stressful, frustrating and require you to "dig deep" into your reserves of patience in order to work through to a resolution with your neighbour.
Boundary dispute over my fence
Short answer...no. You've done everything right here to avoid getting into a boundary dispute over a fence. You got a surveyor to stake out the property line and when the neighbour didn't agree to contribute to it you had it built just inside your property. You are building a legal structure on your property.
There is nothing they can do about it.
New fence
No you don't. And if the neighbour then puts the fence up on the property boundary you own half of a fence that you didn't have to pay for and get to enjoy all of its benefits.
As to how this will affect your future relationship with your neighbour is a different matter, of course.
Pond on property border
If it's just a pond that gathers water and is not part of an existing or historical water system, then the part that's on your side of the boundary is yours, and the part that is on your neighbour's side is theirs.
The exception to this is if, when originally deeded, your property excluded the body of water. Water systems (lakes, rivers, streams, channels etc.) are owned by the Crown and managed by the Ministry of Natural Resources
Property size
If you're looking for an exact area calculation of an irregular shaped lot your best bet is to call a surveyor.
This is especially the case if your lot has any curved boundaries. A surveyor will do the calculation using the lengths and bearings of the boundary segment.
Does the seller have to provide me with the survey?
The seller only has to provide you with a survey if you stipulate it as a condition/requirement of the Agreement of Purchase and Sale. If you haven't got to that stage yet and re still in the research phase on a property, they don't have to provide you with one.
You can request it from them, and if they don't have one it's still an excellent idea to get a hold of one yourself so you can validate for yourself whether what the seller is representing as being for sale is actually part of the property.
